Any thoughts on these saucepans?

MikeZ

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I bought these two pans at a flea market this summer. As you can see (I hope) a No.3 - 4 Pints and a No.5 - 6 Pints, both marked with an "L" in a diamond, what I think is a very heavy gate mark and steel handles.

Any thoughts as to a maker or age? I wonder how many were in a set if there is one.
 

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First guess: New imports, but not China or Japan, with the labels removed.

Hilditch

Curious what leads you to that conclusion. Measurements given in pints, and the abbreviation No. for Number, plus a gatemark. Seems more like older American or UK to me. But just a guess.
 
Modern style handles don’t fit with a gate mark, combined with cover the bases markings for the UK and the US. I smell a marketing ploy. Four UK pints = five US pints, so compromise. No such markings in the gate mark era that I remember.

No surprise if these are cast aluminum with a factory coating. Does a magnet stick?

Hilditch
 
Hmmm... I agree that what appears to me to be rolled steel handles does seem off. But I also fail to see the logic in faking something that none of us have ever even seen before. Where's the value in that?
 
Dan, I think you answered your own question. First, it's never been seen before. If these are of that era, we would have seen at least one on here before. Look at the ERIE Spider and Indian Head Wopak. Second, we've never seen this type of handle on cast iron at all plus the fact it's marked like Hilditch said. That era they put numbers or the foundries name on them, not volume sizes. Like Hilditch, I smell a marketing ploy with the gatemark (look at the second pic, the gateway doesn't look ground or broken, like it's cast in). One man's opinion anyway. :D
 
Hey all,

Thanks for the input. Bonnie and Rob, I'd say you've nailed it, especially the picture of the 1 Pint saucepan, Bonnie. The "diamond L" mark is almost identical to the marks on mine and the lettering is pretty close.

There's a difference in the details of the lettering on my two pans, with the lettering on the No. 3 having more detail. The "diamond" is larger then the one on the No. 5 and as Hilditch pointed out, it has a much heavier gate mark. The handles are both the same: a piece of steel or tin? rolled into a taper with the small end in the iron socket of the pan and the large end capped with a circular piece of metal. The gunk that poured out of these two handles when I stripped them!

I may have to locate some colleagues in the UK... At $ 15.00 for the pair, I'm pleased with this find.
 
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