Corn stick pan identification

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Here's another pan that I'm looking for help on. It's in need of some cleanup before using, but hope to get it into the cycle soon. On the front it has no 11 and on the back has the numbers 954. @Doug D. you've identified the other 2 pretty easy hopefully you can tell me something about this one. Thanks
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This shape is known as a breadstick pan, and was produced by several makers. At first glance, the 954 tells us a Griswold pan was involved, but the gate mark would tend to indicate a copy. According to the yellow book, Griswold pans of this shape did have gate marks on the two earliest of its 15 variations, however, the Griswold pan is designated a No. 22, and in raised letters on the top of the handle, not an incised No. 11. So, we'll have to call this a recast, a pan made using an actual pan to create a pattern, maker unknown.

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Thanks again @Doug D. I originally thought it was a griswold until I read on there's was a no 22. So I was kinda confused, you've cleared it up for me. I've got others I'm not sure about, but I'll try to take a break from posting them till a later date.
 
OK. I'm confused why someone making a recast/copy would change the No 22 to a No 11. But the gate mark is the bigger puzzle. Griswold stick pans weren't made like that.
 
@CraigA. never thought of that because I really don't know anything about recast, but why would they leave the 954 but change the no 22. Curious what you mean about the gate mark being a bigger puzzle.
 
Well, I'm not the expert, that's for sure.
The book that Doug refers to tells us that variations 1 & 2 both have gate marks. The second one has the PN 954 and a raised no 22 on the top side of the handle. Neither one has the hanging hole while yours has two.
And the #11 pan is a French Roll pan with raised markings, not incised. Not a bread stick pan.

The whole thing has me confused.
 
Well now I'm confused lol. Was all gate mark cast iron before 1900 or did it depend on manufacturer. I recently got this pan from my grandmother with some other stuff, I'm guessing it came from her mother but not sure if she knows how far it goes back in the family.
 
Generalization about the time period of bottom gating can't be applied to recasts. Recasts exist because the maker lacked the capital to invest in proper patterns and also the ability to utilize modern casting techniques. In other words, a quick and dirty operation. A recast could have been produced any time after the pan used for its pattern was made. Also, we should not assume that because this pan is bottom gated, that the pan it was copied from was, too.

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