It’s made in Sidney.. but by whom?

Charlie C.

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Howdy, friends! Hope y’all don’t mind me dropping in and asking some question about this bean pot I bought as a gift for my mother’s ever-growing cast iron collection.

She received it the other day and has been trying to research it since with very little to show for it; and I must confess I’ve had a lot of fun trying to track down similar pots with her. We compared it to Wagner pots of the same style online, but have noticed some discrepancies between them. I think the biggest difference is the bales that hold the hanger on. I remembered some Wagner logos that featured just “SIDNEY” but in my research (mostly conducted on the reference site that led me here), the logo was almost always done in an arc and rarely had the “O” beneath it. Would this positively make this a non-Wagner peice?

So far, my closest match seems to be the Sidney Hollowware company that operated for about a decade in the late 1800s. The early logos were scroll but the later ones seam to have a similar block-logo design with the exception of an embossed name in an arc around the floor. I’m almost wondering if this would be a transitional piece and perhaps an early one made under Wagner ownership?

I did my best to photograph the details I thought were helpful, but if I missed anything just ask and I’m more then happy to provide more pictures. It’s a little chewed up but we think a vinegar bath will get a good amount of the rust off.


With that out of the way, there’s a potential It’s just some common company I somehow missed.. if it is just tell me I’m crazy haha.


I also feel like I should note that the lid seems to be mis-matched, as it’s a size smaller then the rest of the pot. If anyone recognizes the make/model of the lid or the pot I’d appreciate any information I could pass along to Ma’.

Thanks much,
CC
 

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And here are some pictures of the lid; once again let me know if I missed anything. I have no idea why it looks ground, guess the last owner (an Old school tool dealer type, just racks and racks full) must’ve tried to fix it or something?

The last image is a picture of the bottom of the beanpot with some contrast so the markings pop.

Thanks again
 

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With a few exceptions, the "O" on actual SHW pieces is square-sided. This piece was likely made in the SHW plant during Wagner ownership or possibly the Wagner plant after the SHW plant was sold back to Philip Smith, and from a Wagner pattern with the arc Wagner filled in. The lid is for a Griswold Iron Mountain dutch oven; there should be a 4-digit pattern number somewhere under the rust.
 
Thanks Doug! Thats awesome information and I’ll be sure to pass it along to Ma’, I’m sure she’ll be glad to hear that it’s the real McCoy and not a dud. Is the lid worth trying to save? Any suggestions for making the handle look less-crumby?

Once again, thanks for the info!
CC
 
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