Ornate handle single spout ID ?

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Pat_A

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This beauty has a single spout and an ornate handle.
The bottom simply has 7 x 8 (heat ring ?) and no other markings .
There is no gate mark, so I am guessing this is a 20th century pan.
The outside dimension (excluding pour spout) is 10.25 "
The inside diameter is 9.825"

Does anyone have an idea of the manufacturer, or could point me in the right direction on this one ?

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MDFraley said:
I'm thinking it's Russian according to the below link I found. It didn't give much information according to the skillets date or any other info but it's for sure your piece.
http://www.designsponge.com/2009/09/past-and-present-log-cabin-cast-iron-skillet-project.html
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Wow ! Thanks MDFraley -- that is the exact pan. I don't know if it is Russian, as the picture states "southern cornbread" --I suppose it could be southern Russia, but I'm leaning more towards southern USA.
 
I actually went back and re-read the article and if you scroll down about half the way they show the bottom of that skillet but it doesn't have the same markings as yours. It looks like it is marked in English and the first letter may be a "B" and the last part looks like HE co. I looked thru are data base and can't connect the lettering to something we have shown but that doesn't mean anything. Some of our members could most likely figure it out quickly. The article says it was bought at an antique up in new England some where so maybe it is American made and not Russian.
 
The only mention of Russia in the link provided is in reference to log building construction.
 
Based on your measurements and the smallish heat ring relative to the rest of the skillet, I'd say you have a #8 skillet with a heat ring sized to fit a #7 stove eye. I wouldn't rule out the late 1800's just because it isn't bottom gated. Plenty of foundries were side gating prior to 1900.
 
I'd say that you have an unmarked Highland Foundry skillet. Look at earlyskillets.blogspot.com. In the second group of pictures, the stack on the right will give you a start on IDing it. I may have a picture of a marked one I cleaned for a guy and if I can find it, I'll send it along.

Das vadania!
 
Ty L. said:
Based on your measurements and the smallish heat ring relative to the rest of the skillet, I'd say you have a #8 skillet with a heat ring sized to fit a #7 stove eye. I wouldn't rule out the late 1800's just because it isn't bottom gated. Plenty of foundries were side gating prior to 1900.
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Thanks for solving the 7 x 8 mystery. Which would be the earliest year for side-grating ? 1870s ? Earlier ?

MikeZ said:
I'd say that you have an unmarked Highland Foundry skillet. Look at earlyskillets.blogspot.com. In the second group of pictures, the stack on the right will give you a start on IDing it. I may have a picture of a marked one I cleaned for a guy and if I can find it, I'll send it along.

Das vadania!
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Thanks for the earlyskillets.com link. That stack on the right looks almost identical, except there is a bit of ornate scrollwork where the handle and the skillet meet (mine is plain), and my skillet does not have the name of the company or patent date.

This is a great start -- now I need to look up that 1879 patent. Maybe the company shared it's mold patterns with other foundries or produced an inexpensive line without the logo (this may be a stretch as I'm trying to fit 20th century marketing into the 19th century).

Grazie !
 
You're right on the design differences between your skillet and the HF & Co ones I pointed out. I was a little hasty in my pronouncement; tried to get something out on it before I left for the day. I focused on the cutout design at the end of the handle on yours and didn't notice that design didn't continue through the rest of the handle, as it does on the HF, plus other differences you noted.

Don't let a pan being unmarked throw you as to make. I have 3 HF skillets, all unmarked, and they're identical to my neighbor's marked one. I'm not posting a picture of his, as you've already seen what it looks like.

The 1879 patent date is for the handle design, from JM Read. There are at least 5 makers that have this date on their skillets. You can see some of this if you care to look at the Facebook page "The Iron Works!" at my Jan.30 entry.
 
Pat,

I remember reading somewhere, possibly on another thread here, that the transition started in the 1870's.
 
MikeZ said:
You're right on the design differences between your skillet and the HF & Co ones I pointed out. I was a little hasty in my pronouncement; tried to get something out on it before I left for the day. I focused on the cutout design at the end of the handle on yours and didn't notice that design didn't continue through the rest of the handle, as it does on the HF, plus other differences you noted.

Don't let a pan being unmarked throw you as to make. I have 3 HF skillets, all unmarked, and they're identical to my neighbor's marked one. I'm not posting a picture of his, as you've already seen what it looks like.

The 1879 patent date is for the handle design, from JM Read. There are at least 5 makers that have this date on their skillets. You can see some of this if you care to look at the Facebook page "The Iron Works!" at my Jan.30 entry.
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Thanks for the explanation and the FB invitation.

What would be a reasonable "retail" price-tag for this skillet if I were to decide to part with it (doubt I would be able to part with it) ?

Ty L. said:
Pat,

I remember reading somewhere, possibly on another thread here, that the transition started in the 1870's.
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Thanks, so the 1900 date is just a rough guide, the process actually started some 30 years earlier, ergo, I probably do have a 19th century skillet.
 
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