Picked Up a Couple of Corn Bread Pans Today

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MikeL

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I hit a couple of flea markets to day and these followed me home. I saw the small one last week and decided to go ahead and get it for $13. The Wagner Ware is a full size, which I didn't have yet. It was marked $30 so I went to the counter and asked if the vendor might come down, luck was on my side, he said it was his and asked what I would pay for it. I said $15, he said ok, he didn't know much about them, Fishing was his thing.

If you look closely under the 1318 you can see a ghost mark of Patton Pending and on the top cup is Krusty Korn Kobs in small letters but it didn't show up in the picture.

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I'm by no means the "expert" corn bread/corn wheat pan guy but the first pic you posted looks a bit suspicious to me. I have several of the Griswold pieces which have one hanging hole only and not two as your piece has.
In the BB p.263 there is a corn bread pan that that has the wheat pattern with two holes but that pan has seven (7) receptacles where as your pan only shows six (6) receptacles.
If I had to guess I would say that someone copied a Griswold mold (maybe a No. 27) and filled in the open frame to make it a closed frame and used the "corn bread" lettering and drilled a second hole to produce the pan you now have. Lot of work if you ask me to produce something that's possibly a fake.
Seems like I have seen this same style of pan pop up on eBay with the six slots and I just stayed away from it not knowing if it is real or a fake of sorts.
DougD will most likely be a better authority than me so maybe he will weigh in on this one.
 
The wheat pan shown on pg. 263 of the BB was known to have been made in both 6 and 7 stick versions and are not considered to be copies or fakes of a Griswold piece. Since they have similar characteristics of both the #27 (outer frame) and #2700 (handles) and either 6 or 7 sticks they couldn't have been cast from a single altered pattern.
I don't think the collecting community has ever came to conclusion as to who made them. They are just considered to be a cornbread pan from an unidentified manufacturer with a Griswold style wheat pattern.
Here are a couple of quotes from Steve Stephens on the WAGS site several years back when he decided they were probably not Wagner pieces which is also noted in BB.

"That wheatstick pan comes in a 6-stick version which I presume to be earlier. Again, due to the number of these pans I have had and seen they were produced in large numbers and probably over a several year or many year period."
"That pan does resemble the Griswold 2700 pan. If you compare it to the 2700 you will see that the detailing is different, the casting quality is different, the handles are similiar but not the same, the wheat patterns are not the same (detail-wise)"
"Those pans come with no letter, the letter B, the letter E and, I think someone pointed out to me, another letter. "

Mike, still a nice find for $13. I probably paid that much for the couple I had about 10 years ago.
 
Thank you gentlemen for the comments and clarifications.

While out yesterday, I saw one just like it except it had Made in USA and nothing else. The tag on said, "Very rare corn bread pan", and was priced $59.95. :shootself:

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I haven't seen a lot of the larger Wagner Ware corn bread pans, actually I haven't seen any. Are they less common or am I just not seeing them?
 
All three sizes were available into the 1940s. After that, only the size corresponding to the junior remained. The 1318 you have is the largest, senior size.

The one you saw with just Made In USA on it previously had just Wagner Ware in the stylized logo (no Sidney -O-), and was subsequently de-branded altogether in order to be sold in a cardboard sleeve either as Wagner or Griswold. $5.99 would be closer to actual value.
 
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